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Thursday, March 30, 2006

Anecdotal Information

In the past week I've gotten emails from three people who have recently been in China, and who talked with their facilitators quite a bit. All three tell stories of orphanages that are being closed because there are no babies. Or, in one case, two orphanages being combined into one and being set up specifically for special needs, since most babies being abandoned are special needs babies. There are numbers given - how this orphanage used to have around 200 babies and now has about a dozen and most of those children are in foster care. The facilitators also talked about domestic adoptions, and stated that many of the babies are now adopted to local families. The information basically backs up what we are being told - that fewer babies are being abandoned and that domestic adoption is picking up. And, honestly, this is wonderful news. Truly it is. It only sucks if you're in the pipeline hoping to adopt a child. But, now to anylyze the information. As to the orphanages closing, I believe that while this may be the case in some areas of the country, there are other areas of the country where prosperity hasn't quite taken hold and this is not the case. I know that people who have recently been to my daughter's orphanage have seen a lot of babies. So, I do think we need to be aware that (especially in the cities) abandonment is down... but there are areas of the country that, while it very well might be down, there are apparently still a whole lot of babies who are abandoned. Perhaps this means the CCAA needs to change things around - orphanages that were sending paperwork will no longer be sending paperwork, and orphanages that did not in the past need to start. And, if we can believe the rumor from last fall, they started that process sometime around August of last year.

6 Comments:

Blogger RumorQueen said...

Debann - this ties in to my other post from this morning, about how far out the CCAA lets the orphanages know how much paperwork they should send and in which month.

What would be interesting to know would be how many babies this orphanage had allocated in 2005 and 2004.

3/30/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger RumorQueen said...

Debann- to your second post.

The new law making it easier for domestic adoptions went into place in early 2005, IIRC. So, it does seem that it could be having an effect starting late last year.

And, for the record, it is my belief that the "empty orphanages" are not a widespread thing, but are happening in areas with more presperity.

I do believe the people who report this. But I also believe the people who report seeing a lot of babies. China is a big country - it's possible one area has empty orphanages and another has full orphanages.

If anyone has an "in" at HTS or LWB maybe you could let us know what those organizations are seeing? Somehow I'm not so sure it's something they would shout from the rooftops, as the more money they get, the more kids they can help, and I'm not sure they'd want to broadcast that there are less kids and risk having less money come in. (not saying this is a bad thing, I know these organizations enough to know they are truly in it to help the kids).

Also, much of what LWB does is for special needs kids, and from what I'm hearing those abandonments are not going down a whole lot. So, less NSN abandonments wouldn't effect LWB, I don't think.

HTS might see an effect where less nannies are needed, but then that would just mean they could spend more on the big sisters programs - of which I doubt the numbers are going down.

3/30/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger RumorQueen said...

More info coming in:

Someone who has a friend who lives in China and volunteers at an orphanage. No idea what part of China, but they have not seen a slowdown. News that at another orphanage the numbers went from 480 to 520 because of the current slowdown in international adoption.

3/30/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger eli said...

RQ, what is the significance of the numbers 480 to 520 -- is that numbers of babies adopted out per year? I didnt understand that last sentence...thanks

3/30/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger chad-roscoe said...

Rumor Q. said, "And, honestly, this is wonderful news. Truly it is.

It only sucks if you're in the pipeline hoping to adopt a child."

Thank you for this, both sides. Sometimes on some sites it seems people only talk about how international adoption should end now, and can they please foster more domestic adoption...etc., but those are always the folks with 2 or 3 kids from China already in their home. It is wonderful news, but it does suck for us in the pipeline, and that's not wrong. We want the best for all babies, but we want babies too.
Thanks for seeing that :)
Dianne

3/31/2006 02:51:00 AM  
Blogger Holly Brooke said...

We recenlty returned from Kunming, Yunnan where we adopted our son through the WC program. In our visit to the orphanage we were told that there were about 600 children under the care of the SWI moslty in foster care. Sure doesn't seem like a reduction in numbers to me.

We also visited the room my son stayed in for a brief time there (he was primarily in foster care) and we saw about 10 babies just in the one room we were allowed into all of which had papers at the CCAA waiting to be matched.

I do think that some SWIs in the more prosperous areas may have seen a reduction (i.e.Jiangsu) but I just don't believe that the reduction in the number or orphans is widespread.

4/05/2006 04:58:00 PM  

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