What the agencies are saying
I decided to take a look at what the agencies have on their websites for people looking to adopt.
AHH you will wait 9 months for a referral
Bethany healthy children: 10-11 months after dossier log-in date
CCAI Appx. 10-14 Months
CHI Referrals are taking approximately 10 - 12 months.
Dillon Wait time for a referral of a child averages 10 -12 months
GWCA approx eight (8) months after dossiers are submitted to China
HFS Current wait time for referral is between 8-10 months
That seems to be a decent sampling of the first half of the alphabet. If anyone has an agency that shows something way off from this, please either email or comment with the URL.
I know some of the overseas agencies are pushing things out to two years for their current clients, but do any of them show that for prospective clients? If so, I'd be interested in seeing some URL's for your agency's information, if you don't mind.
I will add your URL's onto the bottom of this post as I get them. If I get any. (Please note, I'm only interested in URL's that are not password protected)
Formons une famille (Canada) approximately 10 months
FTIA approximately 10 to 11 months
Wide Horizons can currently take up to 12 months
WACAP After we send your documents to China, it takes about 12 to 18 months to match you with your child
Childrens Bridge Your child will arrive home approximately 12 - 14 months after your adoption file reaches China
posted by RumorQueen at 4/13/2006 09:33:00 AM
25 Comments:
Ha! I'm with GW and going on 10 months. I would say that probably needs to be updated.
Our agency's site in Canada has been updated recently to say "Your child will arrive home approximately 12 - 14 months after your adoption file reaches China."
Stephanie, what really bothers me is that it says 8 months "after dossier is submitted to China". When did the current May 1st LID's send their dossier to China? If it was mid April (and that is being optimistic) then those people have waited 12 months since their dossier went to China and still don't have a referral.
Sam&Matt - would you mind giving us the URL? Please?
are these folks serious? why is ANYONE still saying 8 months on their website? and for that matter, why is anyone still saying 10 months, even as the beginning of the range? we are already past 10 months! isn't it 11 now? if your lid is may 31, you're not getting a referral until late april at the earliest. thats 11 months. i suppose that if they go far into june they can still say 10 months for those folks. but i cannot imagine them going far into june...
Holt is saying to new applicants that the curent wait is about 12 months and that they don't foresee the wait ever going beyond 18 months.
AHH's most recent message said that the "current" wait is 10 months - which was the LID to referral time for their last batch of referrals. The last time they mentioned a 9 month wait is when it was a 9 month wait. They generally do not speculate on the future timelines.
We are with EAC and they say "Many families complete Chinese adoptions within 9 – 12 months of signing up with EAC. The url is
www.eaci.com
I agree that most are just giving the current wait time, but it still seems it would be a little more, ethical, to make it clear this is the current wait time and that in the past year wait times have doubled.
Did ya'll notice WACAP? 12-18 months. If we do this again I might just consider them. I respect honesty, and this seems to be an honest answer right now. The end of June people are likely going to wait a year (barring some kind of miracle), and since the wait has increased by six months in the past year, this seems to be a good round number to guess at.
But, the purpose of this wasn't to compare agencies... the purpose of this was to try to get an idea of what the agencies are saying publicly.
I hear a lot about some agencies warning that the wait could go out to 20 to 24 months, but I'm not seeing anything close to that yet. If agencies are warning their current clients of this, shouldn't they be warning their prospective clients, too? I want to see the 20 to 24 month thing in writing somewhere before I believe it - I just do.
America World (AWAA) is saying 11-12 months on their website awaa.org
Cindy - do you really think they will be that obvious about it?
I'm not saying they won't, because I have no clue what they are going to do next.
If I use my math skills and make a pretty graph of the last six months then I'd believe they are about to come to a complete stop, and I do NOT think that this is the case.
But, still, to creep and crawl into 12 months and then suddenly go back to full months... that just seems a bit "in your face", doesn't it?
Maybe they'll pick it back up a little bit now and then gradually get back to whole months, so that we won't think they did it on purpose. (I can hope, right?)
my little (large DTC group is 5 families) agency says this on the home page, and to my knowledge they never had info like this on the home page before:
April 2, 2006
We received referrals at the end of March for dossiers that went to China in May 2005. So, currently referrals (matches of a baby with a family) are taking 10 months. Travel to China is approximately 6-8 weeks afterwards.
http://www.adoptionguides.org/
~di
Our agency is small also. It says 8 to 9 with the possibility of longer waits.
http://www.familytreeadoption.org/international/china/steps.htm
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I am with CCAI and I spoke with them this morning and they said to expect a 14 month wait if not longer. I have a 2/28 LID. :(
I called GWCA today and they said 10-12 months.
wow stephanie, thats big news if ccai is saying 14 months. that sortof tells us that if we ever 'get' to 12 months, it won't stay that way for long.
i had a terrible feeling that this mythical 12 month wait might be for those with summer lids, but it wouldn't last into the fall and winter.
i am feb lid too, also ccai. that sucks.
I think that we need to be cautious here. We don't have any info on what to expect except past history. There was no indication last summer that things were about to slow WAY down, so we have nothing to make us think that the wait will speed up or slow down even more. I think we just have to wait and see. My *opinion* is that it will be about 12 months. That June and July are smaller months and the CCAA will catch up.
I am with CCAI and I believe they are saying 10-14 months to give a best and worst case scenario. CCAI has been very forthright about the wait and how anything can change, so I believe that they are preparing us but hoping for the best.
Just my gut instinct, I have nothing to really back it up. For any of us to really know, we'd have to have some kind of secret contact with the CCAA and since that ain't happening, we'll just have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Tammy, I just looked at it again - the page I linked says exactly what I've got listed "you will wait 9 months for a referral". Go ahead, click the link, see what it says.
They may be telling that to current clients, but this is what prospective clients see.
okay so i'll say our agency name this time again since everyone is here. :)
some of you have seen some posts already, but we're 8/10 LID and using CCAI. They definitely are being forthcoming about wait times. But they (at least the people I've spoke with) will not say anything that's speculation. One person a group of us spoke with Tuesday basically wouldn't say anything close to speculation including if she thought things would be around 12 months. (she wouldn't even say anything to a June 2nd LID family). I am suprised the person from CCAI mentioned in an earlier post said 14 mos. if not longer. The person I've spoke with in Child Match says 12 months seems most likely. (there again though not wanting to speculate)
eli- yes you are right however...if things don't change in the referral time frame, the 12 month thing will only roughly last through pretty much early Sept 05 LIDs. the CCAA would have to stick to doing 1/2 months though for that. But I agree with Suzanne in thinking that we have no idea that things won't get alittle better and faster down the road.
waiting 4 et al.- thats weird that ccai is telling people different things.i'd expect them to be ridiculously careful.
don't they have a newsletter coming out in a few days? april 15? i'm looking forward to seeing what that says about the wait...
Eli-
yes it is weird. Everything I'd read, seen, and heard from people I've spoke with at CCAI has been consistent. except for what -stephanie-posted.
yes the newsletter should be out tomorrow or early next week. (they've been consistent on putting that out on the 15th or the closest week-day) We too are interested on what they publish. FYI-it says on the site they plan to do monthly updates as well.
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to Kevin and Laura:
love the attitude. seriously! my wife and I as well are holding on to optimism. :)
China Adoption With Love, Inc. (CAWLI) says, "The wait is about 11 months from log in date. We do expect a longer wait into 2006."
Tammy and RQ,
I am with AHH also and under What To Expect it does say 8-10 months and under Time to Adoption it says 12-14. AHH is not consistent in their information under various headings. I have noticed this type of error before on their site. Our family coordinator told us a few days ago to expect 11 months then an email came out 2 days later which stated 10 months. Bottom line is they have no clue-just guesses like every other agency. My personal opinion is that it is unfair of CCAA to not give the agencies some kind of inkling as to what their plans are for processing the dossiers. I would think someone in CCAA knows exactly what is going on with the processing. I'm not sure what all of the lack of information on their part achieves?
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